Intel's bullshit Marketing strikes again
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时间:2017-11-23 14:35   热度:1112° 

笑料来源Intel Retail Edge培训计划


至于为什么说“again”,之前的:Intel Skylake-SP bullshit PPT - mis"die"rection

http://www.moepc.net/?post=2449


这次的笑料比上次稍微专业了那么一点


4C/4T的i5-7600K吊打8C/16T的Ryzen 7 1800X,2C/4T的7350K也能吊打6C/12T的Ryzen 5 1600!


Intel:“i5-7600K游戏性能比1800X强,还只要一半价钱”


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“7600K文明6 AI【单线程】比1800X强16%”

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“当然web性能【单线程】也强于1800X,还有内容创作

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“Web性能7600K比1800X强10%”

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“编译性能比1800X高62%

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“4K视频编辑7600K也比1800X快31%”

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“对于你的客户而言,只要半价就能得到更快的数字生活体验”

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当然还有更搞笑的

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“照片处理,i3-7350K比1600快24%”

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“音频压缩【单线程】,7350K也比1600好23%

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“上面的数据清楚地显示,第七代i3和i5的无论是游戏性能、内容创作还是性价比都要高于AMD Ryzen 7和Ryzen 5

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footnote:

1 Software and workloads used in performance tests may have been optimized for performance only on Intel microprocessors. Performance tests, such as SYSmark and MobileMark, are measured using specific computer systems, components, software, operations and functions. Any change to any of those factors may cause the results to vary. You should consult other information and performance tests to assist you in fully evaluating your contemplated purchases, including the performance of that product when combined with other products. For more complete information about performance and benchmark results, visit http://www.intel.com/benchmarks.


2 Prices in USD (US$) as of 7/19/2017 at www.newegg.com:
AMD* Ryzen* 7 1800X processor (8C16T-3.6/4GHz, 95W)
Intel® Core™ i5-7600K processor (4C4T-3.8/4.2GHz, 91W)
AMD* Ryzen* 5 1600 processor (6C12T-3.2/3.6GHz, 65W)
Intel® Core™ i3-7350K processor (2C4T-4.2/4.2GHz, 60W)


3 Intel® Core™ i5 vs. AMD* Ryzen* 7 systems configurations: Intel® Core™ i5-7600K processor (4C4T-3.8/4.2GHz, 91W); OS: Windows® 10, 1607; GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 8GB Founder's Edition; GFX Driver: 378.66; Storage: Intel® SSD 535 Series 240GB; Memory: DDR4 16GB 2400 2 Channels; Motherboard: ASUS* PRIME Z270-A Bios F4C.
AMD* Ryzen* 7 1800X processor (8C16T-3.6/4GHz, 95W); OS: Windows® 10, 1607; GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 8GB Founder’s Edition; GFX Driver: 378.66; Storage: Intel® SSD 535 Series 240GB; Memory: DDR4 16GB 2667 2 Channels; Motherboard: ASUS* PRIME X370 Pro Bios 504.


4 Deus Ex: Mankind Divided – Benchmark – DX12 1080P High Settings – Average FPS


5 Civilization VI – AI Benchmark – DX12 1080P High Settings – Average Turn Time(s)


6 Rise of the Tomb Raider – Benchmark – DX12 1080P High Settings – Overall Average FPS


7 As measured by WebXPRT* 2015 (Edge) – Overall. WebXPRT* 2015 is a benchmark from Principled Technologies* that measures the performance of web applications using six usage scenarios: Photo Enhancements, Organize Album, Local Notes, Stock Option Pricing, Sales Graphs, and Explore DNA Sequencing. WebXPRT tests modern browser technologies such as HTML5 Canvas2D, HTML5 Table, HTML5 Local Storage, as well as JavaScript*. Reported metrics: elapsed time in seconds (lower is better) for each scenario, plus an overall score (higher is better). Scaling efficiencies: CPU dominant (newer browsers are GPU accelerated), sensitive to frequency. WebXPRT is very sensitive to browser type and version but supports any OS that supports an HTML5 browser. Intel® is a sponsor and member of the BenchmarkXPRT Development Community, and was the major developer of the XPRT family of benchmarks. You should consult other information and performance tests to assist you in fully evaluating your contemplated purchases.


8 As measured by Code Compile VisualStudio 2015: Compile JavaScript application – Microsoft Visual Studio Code, an open-source cross-platform code editing tool allowing developers to edit or debug applications on any OS. The source code, a list of dependencies and build recommendations for this project are available at https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode.


9 As measured by Video Create PowerDirector UltraHD HEVC: video project containing a 3840x2160, H.264, .mp4 file (shot on a GoPro HERO4 Black action camera) with added p overlays and video effects.


10 Secondary Gaming systems configurations: Intel® Core™ i3-7350K processor (2C4T-4.2/4.2GHz); OS: Windows® 10, 1607; GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 8GB Founder’s Edition; GFX Driver: 378.92; Storage: Intel® SSD 540 Series 240GB; Memory: DDR4 16GB 2400 2 Channels; Motherboard: ASUS* PRIME Z270-A Bios F4C.


11 Secondary Content Creation (and AMD* Everyday) systems configurations: Intel® Core™ i3-7350K processor (2C4T-4.2/4.2GHz); OS: Windows® 10, 1607; GPU: EVGA GTX 1060 6GB; GFX Driver: 378.92; Storage: Intel® SSD 540 Series 240GB; Memory: DDR4 16GB 2400 2 Channels; Motherboard: ASUS* PRIME Z270-A Bios F4C.

AMD* Ryzen* 5 1600 processor (6C12T-3.2/3.6GHZ); OS: Windows® 10, 1607; GPU: EVGA GTX 1060 6GB; GFX Driver: 378.92; Storage: Intel® SSD 540 Series 240GB; Memory: DDR4 16GB 2667 2 Channels; Motherboard: ASUS* PRIME X370 Pro Bios.


12 As measured by Photo Create PhotoshopCC 2017 Filter Adjustments: 19.70 MB, 36.3 Megapixel, JPG photo taken on a DSLR camera. The “Colored Pencil” artistic filter is applied and the effect’s width and brightness are adjusted and previewed.
AMD* Ryzen* 5 1600 processor (6C12T-3.2/3.6GHZ); OS: Windows® 10, 1607; GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 8GB Founder’s Edition; GFX Driver: 378.92; Storage: Intel® SSD 540 Series 240GB; Memory: DDR4 16GB 2667 2 Channels; Motherboard: ASUS* PRIME X370 Pro Bios.


13 As measured by Audio Consume FLAC (Professional Audio): FLAC audio encoding – 4.38GB WAV file in 192KHz sampling and 24-bit samples, similar to the file formats of professional high-fidelity audio used in professional audio usages.


14 Warning: Altering PC clock or memory frequency and/or voltage may (i) reduce system stability and use life of the system, memory and processor; (ii) cause the processor and other system components to fail; (iii) cause reductions in system performance; (iv) cause additional heat or other damage; and (v) affect system data integrity. Intel assumes no responsibility that the memory, included if used with altered clock frequencies and/or voltages, will be fit for any particular purpose. Check with memory manufacturer for warranty and additional details.


15 Marco Chiappetta, “AMD Ryzen Review: Ryzen 7 1800X, 1700X, And 1700 – Zen Brings The Fight Back To Intel,” HotHardware.com, March 02, 2017, accessed June 5, 2017, https://hothardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-1700x-1700-benchmarks-and-review?page=10.


16 Nathan Kirsch, “Intel Core i3-7350K Processor Review,” LegitReviews.com, January 10, 2017, accessed June 5, 2017, https://www.legitreviews.com/intel-core-i3-7350k-processor-review_190299/11.


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相关文章:我觉得吧你们这些个编辑都该先死个妈

http://www.moepc.net/?post=1542

这篇的评论不是我清掉的,而是多说转emlog有部分数据没法恢复






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轮子妈Google Chrome 62.0.3202.94Windows 72017-11-27 13:34
麻烦搞个黑海韵/振华电源的素材,我好安利台达祖传双路祖传非模电源。
剧毒术士马文Google Chrome 62.0.3202.94Windows 102017-11-27 19:13
@轮子妈:没有
除非是事实
比如某提效率专用的结构
轮子妈Google Chrome 62.0.3202.94Windows 72017-11-29 18:35
@剧毒术士马文:海韵和振华都找一家叫做瑞声元的小厂代工大概算一个。
ssnitrousoxideGoogle Chrome 62.0.3202.94Windows 102017-11-24 10:35
选择性比较和混淆视听是公关部门以及科技媒体都常用的手段,你看你不也是选择性地拿Ryzen有优势的测试内容来比较么?保持中立只是说着玩玩的么?

Video Editing~=Video Transcoding

Photo Editing~=Photoscan,实际上Agisoft Photoscan是个建模软件,和图像编辑没一毛钱关系

所以你的counterargument完全没在点上

Ryzen在productivity应用里,从R7到TR,对Intel的产品没有全面性的优势,Pugetsystems也都用测试说明了很多次了,他们到现在推荐的也是77K/87K的系统。

俺不是针对你,当有很多互相矛盾的测试数据的时候,如何解读产品性能完全取决于立场,Intel这个只是个比较极端的例子。Be neutral or not at all.
剧毒术士马文2017-11-24 11:02
@ssnitrousoxide:"不是针对"
然后一边满嘴针对性的发言,是么。
我既不是你所谓的"公关",更不是你所谓的科技"媒体",只是我个人把想拿出来的内容拿出来分享而已。这是我的自由,没必要受你的限制,更没必要受到你一个人的"判断标准"限制。
对挑刺的人说什么也没用,因为从一开始你的态度和立场就有问题,还能客观地看待别人?
每次看到你的回复哭笑不得,不能摆正态度好好讨论了?

对于内容问题,我只是放了几张图罢了,其中photoscan那张图贴错了已经删掉。你可以选择反驳其他观点。
什么叫你的观点,你的观点说穿了100%是站在单线程角度来讲的。
会推荐77/87K是为什么?还不是因为高频+IPC优势在productivity这种单/多线程混合且实时编辑单线程居多的程序中能占优?

我转载的图和我写的压根没有提到77/87K, 谢谢,我也没有说这两颗U在productivity里不如ryzen。这两颗U,尤其是8700K在大多数Adobe系productivity里绝对要胜过主频更低的ryzen,

文里写的是7600K/7350K。这两个在目前无论是I还是A在同价位都有好的多的选择。

就事论事,不要转移话题,你这才叫"混淆视听"。

Be neutral or not at all? I won't give a heck to "your socalled neutral", maybe it's not at all ONLY to you, based on your judgement.
wangbaisen1990Google Chrome 40.0.2214.89Linux2017-11-24 07:23
哈哈哈哈哈果然intel一点脸都不要了哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
蓝猫Firefox 57.0Android2017-11-24 02:03
看到7350k 我笑出了猪叫声
233333Google Chrome 43.0.2357.134Linux2017-11-23 23:42
也就骗骗不懂的,毕竟大众群体才是最好赚钱的,diy玩家永远是少数
在amd看大门未知浏览器Iphone 10_3_3 like Mac OS X2017-11-23 23:04
对比之下amd简直实诚得过分,还在雷达图上老老实实地标记了intel胜过自家产品的部分
233333Google Chrome 43.0.2357.134Linux2017-11-23 23:45
@在amd看大门:确实,5月份amd官方直接标出的是做好的雷达图,优势劣势全部展现出来,而不是搞个遮羞布,把突出的展示,对自己不利的全往裤子里撩
IAMPETERFirefox 57.0Windows 102017-11-23 22:53
最新黑Intel的素材,继i3-7350K又一新作。
Ryzen养成Google Chrome 55.0.2883.87Windows 102017-11-23 18:08
这种坑人PPT应该会发给电商
wannaknowGoogle Chrome 62.0.3202.84Linux2017-11-23 17:01
现在去买带K 4线程(还是第7代)的diy玩家能有几个?这波推的产品简直莫明其妙
剧毒术士马文2017-11-23 19:00
@wannaknow:一年前 - 4C/4T够用
今年 - 4C/4T日常吃瘪
凌小天Google Chrome 53.0.2785.104Windows 72017-11-23 16:09
笑出了声
我土鳖我自豪Firefox 57.0Windows 102017-11-23 16:06
忒不要脸了
potatoGoogle Chrome 53.0.2785.104Windows 102017-11-23 16:04
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